Comments on: Visual Refresh and Linux (and you?)

By: yman

yman — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:10:18 +0000

why can’t firefox check for the native theme on gnome and kde (maybe wait with kde till they come out with the new version) and use it?

By: Steve

Steve — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:26:47 +0000

What ever happened to Gnomestripe & Kdestripe?

Both those themes adopted elements of the native theme including some of the current stock icons. I used to love those themes, and now find myself having to chop up the stock theme to put in the icons I want every time a new major release of Firefox comes out.

Bring back gnomestripe and kdestripe and we linux users will have all the native integration goodness we can handle!

By: Manish Chakravarty

Manish Chakravarty — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:22:18 +0000

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Qt doesn’t get much love, but we’ve asked/begged/pleaded for interest, and no one really seems to have it, including the distros that invest time into Firefox)
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I am comfortable with Qt/KDELibs.
What do i need to do get started with Firefox/Qt development.

A few pointers would be really really useful

In case you want to mail me with some info:
manishchaks AT gmail.com

Thanks in advance!

By: Lalo Martins

Lalo Martins — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:22:09 +0000

I don’t understand why you guys keep saying “distros”. I don’t see how visual integration for eg Fedora is different from SUSE. Rather, you want two themes: GNOME and KDE. (Maybe, if I’m really luck, XFCE, as that’s what I use.) And as Graeme Pietersz and chodo say, actually work on integration, not only “nice icons” and form widgets.

By: chodo

chodo — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:35:46 +0000

“We’ve had really good native appearance and drawing hooks for GTK2″

Good joke, simply hilarious. Ever heard of this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284217 It seems you doesn’t. The column tabs look really ugly (which is, of course, not so devastating for Firefox as it is for Thunderbird, were you must see this ugliness each time you open it.

By: Flavio

Flavio — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:30:08 +0000

To all KDE users asking for integration: Firefox is GTK application on Linux and cannot integrate the KDE filepicker, icons and stuff. Well technically it can, but it would look like a double headed monster, half GTK, half Qt.
If KDE integration is to be done, there need to be a Qt/KdeLibs implementation of XUL. But as “anonymous” already said, the Mozilla Foundation does not seem interested in it.

By: nicu buculei

nicu buculei — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:24:34 +0000

1 for looking again at stock icons on Linux, anything else is, IMO, suboptimal.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:39:57 +0000

>Qt doesn’t get much love, but we’ve asked/begged/pleaded for interest, and no one >really seems to have it, including the distros that invest time into Firefox

I work in offshore software company located in Ukraine. Our company has more than 500 developers. Looking at http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/21/156213 I want to tell you that revenue of Mozilla Foundation many times exceeds the revenue of software company I work in. I say this because having such a solid revenue Mozilla Foundation can afford to have a lot of full time payed developers. But it doesn’t want to do this? If you don’t want to hire full time developers you can cooperate with some offshore software company in India or Eastern Europe to develop some feature (I mean QT back end). And this offshore company will be happy to provide support for it’s developed features. Believe me, it won’t coast very much.

You don’t have native QT support but you do have native Mac OS X support. I can bet that the number of KDE Firefox users many times exceed the number of Mac OS X Firefox users. Am I wrong? So where is the logic? Mac OS X is something really different from Linux or Windows and Mac OS X users don’t user application like Firefox and OpenOffice. It’s a reality. Or you want to tell that you have a lot of volunteers working on Mac Os X support. Or maybe Apple invests in this? I don’t think anyone will believe this. Because as I’ve said Mac OS X users will never user Firefox. I am absolutely positive that you do have hired developers working on Max Os X support and there is no need to “ask/beg/plead” for interest. Am I wrong? So why don’t you hire QT developer? At least one.

You know in Ukraine we have a very well know proverb which describes this situation.
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If you want to do something you look for possibilities. If you don’t want to do this you look for reasons.
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I don’t want to offend anyone but you are looking for reasons.
I don’t believe that having such a solid revenue you don’t have possibilities.

Please be honest.

Thanks,
Best regards
Serhiy

By: Graeme Pietersz

Graeme Pietersz — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:22:58 +0000

KDE integration PLEASE.

I do not care about icons (I like the current Firefox icons a lot). I do want the KDE file picker and file associations. Surely those two should not be too hard.

As for appearance, I actually prefer Firefox to have different icons because that reminds me which browser I am using – but I can see that for most users usig the system icons would be best. Using system colours be nice though. But like others, appearance is less important than usability, so please get the file picker and associations done – surely it cannot be that difficult!

By: James Justin Harrell

James Justin Harrell — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:44:33 +0000

Looks aren’t the only issue!

When will I be able to use KDE Wallet with Firefox? When will Firefox’s menu bar appear in KDE’s menu bar when it’s enabled, Mac OS X style? When will Firefox use KDE’s file associations instead of creating it’s own set of file associations? When will I be able to use the KDE file picker with Firefox?

Looks are minor in comparison to these issues!